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Hello! This is a little sudden, but I'd like to hear some opinions. Anyone who has time, please go ahead and answer! Does it seem to you like the native folks are getting better at keeping the basic requirements of human life in mind? How should a person bargain for things like meal breaks, sleep breaks and so on with potential employers who haven't needed such things themselves in thousands of years? Would it even be possible to persuade someone like that? Would it be possible for someone with an ordinary, mundane human body to impersonate a robot? How would you do it? Would there be a punishment if you got caught, do you think? This is all just brainstorming, so please don't worry about wrong answers! Thank you!

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[Tony was pretty entertained by the questions, even if they get downright bizarre by the end. They make him laugh, so what the hell.]

A) Yes, they do seem to be getting better. B) Yes, you can negotiate anything if you've got the right talent. An alternative would be to start your own company as we could use more non-native businesses around here. C) Perhaps, but why would you want to? That sounds really dull. D) What did you drink or take this morning and is there some left for sharing?

Sleep breaks? Whose ever heard of a sleep break? If one of my employees came begging for something like that I would laugh them right out of my office and slam the door in their face.

Are the rules too stringent or are you just lazy?

[As someone who operated on minimal requirements himself, Kaiba could be a difficult employer to work with. Thankfully the vice president was a little more lenient and was able to exert some influence over policies... ]

As for the rest of that.. why bother? I doubt it's an arrestable offense unless you're also trying to gain access to a restricted area, or confidential information

B) Ah, I should have said from the start, it's the entertainment industry that I want to break into. I wouldn't even know where to begin with opening a film studio--I just want to get cast in something. But you're right, having the right talent is definitely a big concern in this case.... C) I just wanted to consider potential backup plans! That's all. D) I only drank orange juice this morning, sir.

Right? It's totally absurd. I was ashamed just writing it down as a hypothetical scenario. But when I can't leave work for days on end, it becomes a problem. I've gotten a little better at sleeping standing up with my eyes open, but I'm not perfect at it yet, and it can present problems of its own as well.... I'm really at a loss. I suppose you're right about it not being an arrestable offense, most likely. I wonder if there's even a law written about that specific scenario.

B) Ah, in that case, write up a list of conditions you need to work properly. After that, you take your list and your cute face and tell every director in the city that with your talent they'll need to pay you double what they're offering and meet every condition. If you say it with enough confidence, you'll have multiple offers within a week.

C) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

D) Adding vodka makes that more fun.

I'd have to put vodka in my morning orange juice for real before I could go around saying all that.

[ooc: With Gladio mun's permission.]

Ok G's giving me his disapproving 'ate a lemon' look. Real advice, you shouldn't feel bad about your needs. If you're honest about them and upfront that this is what humans need any good boss would be understanding. If they aren't willing to work with you, you don't want that asshole as a boss anyway.

[ Congratulations Kyoko, she needed a distraction and this is one, apparently. ]

If by "human" you mean those who possess needs that are not ones easily fulfilled by the current lifestyles of the citizens, it is possible. We have been here long enough, after all.

As for the second, in some cases you would have less luck, but fortunately in some ways the population seems to have become more sensitive to certain needs, given they do not wish to see harm done to those brought here, let alone for them to be put in potential danger. You might approach a negotiation from that angle - allowing your enthusiasm to shine and appealing to some basic desires to protect.

Magic might give you an illusionary form, but without knowledge about those you are seeking to blend in with or their culture, let alone embarking on it under a misguided purpose, it would probably not last very long at all. Any perceived punishment would likely derive from your intention--why you would choose to deceive in the first place, or if you were truly wanting to connect enough to fit in with their people.

While they certainly seem to be getting better, there’s still plenty they don’t know. In my experience working with them from a press standpoint, however, they’re quite receptive to our feedback and try to be accommodating. We’re a valuable asset to them, after all.

Are you trying to get a job with them, yourself?

What exactly is it that you do, and is the pay at least comparable? That isn't a skill that I would advertise to any potential employers...

[Hey, if he could get away with working for days on end he would. It's just that same VP happens to be his younger brother and Mokuba would find a way to make Seto take a break]

Considering that they are dependent on our assistance we should be the ones writing the rules, not following them anyway

Edited 2021-05-04 23:42 (UTC)

What a remarkable attitude.... I don't know what the technology industry is like, but over here in show business, small fry can't get away with being difficult. When everybody else on the cast and crew can work for days without stopping, a fragile human just slows everything down. But trying to seriously keep up didn't work either.... I guess it's my fault for not explaining things from the beginning last time.

[ Kyoko Mogami: here to lead you down a rabbit hole for all your distraction needs. ]

That's kinda what I was thinking! They even have a clinic for us non-robots now--they're probably getting used to us, even if just a little bit. But then, if they worry TOO much, that's a problem too. Especially if you've given them a scare before, they might be afraid to let you work with them again. I definitely can't disguise myself with magic.... And for sure, I would have to study them a lot more before I could blend in with them for very long. As for my motives... well, it's not like I would be trying to spy on them. It would all be a last resort anyway.

The press!! You work in the press here? That's a pretty intense work environment, right? Usually? Is it like that here too? And you're able to keep up? Yes--I've worked with them before, actually, but it ended kinda badly. But that was a while ago, so I'm wondering if they might understand my situation a little better this time, if I can get them to let me try again.

Oh, excuse me--I'm talking about acting in movies, and such. The pay was pretty reasonable for a newcomer when I tried it before. Them depending on us is a problem, too, though, even putting aside that it's the whole reason they kidnapped us in the first place. They only had to see me faint ONCE before they got too scared to let me work with them anymore.

How long ago was your previous scare with them? If any significant amount of time has passed, whether it be through observed changes in the world since then, perhaps they might also have had time to reconsider their methods, depending on what it is you want from them. Currying favor should not be too difficult if you do not trod upon their beliefs.

It's been more than a year, now. That's what I was hoping, that maybe they would understand things better now, and maybe I could convince them to give me another chance.... But what if it's the opposite? What if, because they understand more than ever how fragile our health is compared to theirs... what if they're more against it than ever?

[Tony sighed, not liking that he might not be the best person to give advice in this situation after all. He's never had to apply for a job before or work under anyone else's rules. Hmm, but that didn't mean he couldn't help as a former businessman though.]

Fair enough.

What about presenting yourself not as a nuisance that they have to work around but as a novelty that would make their shows more interesting? There aren't many of us here and have you seen too many of us going to these auditions?

[ And Kyoko's always been a nobody, struggling desperately up every rung of the ladder. A true clash of perspectives! But Tony's reasoning is sound. ]

That's true.... They WERE pretty interested in the novelty angle when I tried before, even if that wasn't how I was trying to sell myself. Maybe if I actually lean into it this time, it'll be easier to convince them to give me a shot.

You would not know unless you made the attempt.

However, you have said that things have changed since the last time. Certainly a lot has changed for them during this past year as well, in having us be among them. Perhaps you could seek out that doctor of theirs and see if they will provide some form of evaluation for you, based upon what you seek to provide or how they might understand your needs better. That might give them more to think about, were they to hear findings from their own community.

An evaluation? Like getting a physical before you can join a sports team or become an astronaut? I never thought about that. Can I really just ask the doctor to do it?

I get how it'd make you feel like the 'bearded lady' though.

Anyone else giving you some ideas about posing as a native? If you figure that out, I'd really like to hear about it.

Well, I've played less glamorous roles than that before. A stepping stone is a stepping stone! So far I've only heard that I'd need magic and a lot of cultural research, so that's a no-go for now. Why? Do you want to try it?

If nothing else, we could use you in a month or so to make a commercial for our new bar opening up. I don't know if we'll have any money but you could use it as an audition clip.

LOL

No I just think it's hysterical and want to know if it's possible.

You're going to run a commercial? I'd like try out! For sure! Volunteering is fine!! Even if you make fun of me, it's fine!

[ Shameless desperation might not be a good look but she's been so bored without any work. ]

Admittedly, I have not interacted with the doctor before to know for certain how they would respond, but it is possible they would be at least familiar with the concept of being able to assess and retain your information and relay it to the necessary parties if you wished.

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